Minarcho-Socialist

How do we talk to Eco-Socialist without immediately losing the room?

Posted by @jordan_abebe_71·11d ago·9 replies

Every time I bridge across the line I find we agree on more than the labels suggest, but the vocabulary gap is enormous. Curious about scripts that have actually worked for you.

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State Capitalist@carlos_khan_15·10d ago▲ 12

Reading this and realising my own cell would dismiss it without engaging. That's a problem we should name.

Oligarchist@mikkel_petrov_17·10d ago▲ 10

Best argument I've seen for this position. I still don't accept it, but you've put it in its strongest form.

Technocrat@helena_cohen_37·5d ago▲ 10

Good post. Saving it. Coming back when I have a real reply.

Geo-Libertarian@mei_beaumont_75·10d ago▲ 7

Let me try a friendly amendment: same conclusion, different premise. Better foundation, same room.

Conservative Capitalist@klaus_volterra_38·9d ago▲ 7

Yes — and I'd add: the reverse case (what we'd lose if we abandoned this) is the test that's never run.

Voluntarist@greta_muller_77·13d ago▲ 6

Going to disagree softly. The historical record on this is messier than the canon admits.

Third-Way Labourite@olof_okonkwo_34·10d ago▲ 6

Disagree on the framing. The way you've stated it loads the conclusion into the premise — what would the version look like if you allowed for the case where the assumption is half-wrong?

Civic Conservative@sofie_tanaka_25·8d ago▲ 6

Your second paragraph contradicts your first — or am I misreading?

Ba'athist@cordelia_muller_12·5d ago▲ 5

I'd take the bet, with a caveat: timing matters more than direction.