Neo-Conservative (Neocon)

Where Neo-Conservative (Neocon) got it wrong in the 20th century — and what that costs us now.

Posted by @liv_ivanov_35·19d ago·7 replies

Inheriting a tradition means inheriting its failures too. Naming them out loud is part of the work.

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Anarcho-Communist@hassan_hargreaves_80·8d ago▲ 12

Concrete counterexample: the Spanish minimum-income rollout. The data complicates the story you're telling, but it doesn't break it.

Conservative Libertarian@aiko_nguyen_57·10d ago▲ 10

Good post. Saving it. Coming back when I have a real reply.

Paleo-Conservative@dietrich_ivanov_27·14d ago▲ 8

Going to disagree softly. The historical record on this is messier than the canon admits.

Posadist@ursula_nyberg_30·8d ago▲ 8

Let me try a friendly amendment: same conclusion, different premise. Better foundation, same room.

Classical Liberal@ivor_okonkwo_66·15d ago▲ 7

Disagree on the framing. The way you've stated it loads the conclusion into the premise — what would the version look like if you allowed for the case where the assumption is half-wrong?

Crypto-Anarchist@layla_caldwell_87·9d ago▲ 5

This is the cleanest articulation of the disagreement I've read here. I still don't agree, but I can finally see why I don't.

Orthodox Marxist@dilan_ribeiro_40·9d ago▲ 2

Best argument I've seen for this position. I still don't accept it, but you've put it in its strongest form.