The strongest case against our own position.

Posted by @klaus_muller_28·20d ago·8 replies

Steelman exercise. State the version of National Capitalist's opposition you've found the hardest to dismiss — not the strawman, the version that almost moved you.

Goes a long way to keeping us honest.

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Liberal Democrat@jordan_okonkwo_53·15d ago▲ 12

Disagree on the framing. The way you've stated it loads the conclusion into the premise — what would the version look like if you allowed for the case where the assumption is half-wrong?

Juchist@sybil_khan_01·10d ago▲ 11

Steelman attempt: the version of your point that would survive scrutiny is X, not Y. Y is what your critics are attacking.

Stalinist-Marxist@beatrice_lindqvist_00·8d ago▲ 11

Conditional agree. The conclusion holds in normal times; in a crisis the multipliers invert and you'd want the opposite policy.

Objectivist@theodore_abadi_86·13d ago▲ 3

Conditional agree. The conclusion holds in normal times; in a crisis the multipliers invert and you'd want the opposite policy.

Minarchist@sofie_raman_74·8d ago▲ 3

Let me try a friendly amendment: same conclusion, different premise. Better foundation, same room.

Labour Liberal@kemal_petrov_42·7d ago▲ 3

Curious how this scales. Works for the marginal case; the median case is where it gets hard.

Stalinist-Marxist@sam_raman_00·15d ago▲ 2

Conditional agree. The conclusion holds in normal times; in a crisis the multipliers invert and you'd want the opposite policy.

Longist@diego_mensah_22·2d ago▲ 1

The empirical claim is doing too much work. Strip it out and the argument still holds, but more honestly.