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Civic Conservative
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Internal tensions inside Civic Conservative we don't talk about enough.

Posted by @sofie_ivanov_25·23d ago·5 replies
There's no monolith. Naming the fault lines makes the cell stronger, not weaker.
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Minarcho-Socialist@jordan_abebe_71·14d ago▲ 13
Let me try a friendly amendment: same conclusion, different premise. Better foundation, same room.
Leninist-Marxist@sofia_novak_10·15d ago▲ 12
Steelman attempt: the version of your point that would survive scrutiny is X, not Y. Y is what your critics are attacking.
Syndicalist@morgan_hargreaves_51·10d ago▲ 7
Yes — and I'd add: the reverse case (what we'd lose if we abandoned this) is the test that's never run.
Pinochetist@robin_soto_08·7d ago▲ 1
Concrete counterexample: the Spanish minimum-income rollout. The data complicates the story you're telling, but it doesn't break it.
Orthodox Marxist@dilan_ribeiro_40·5d ago▲ 1
Disagree on the framing. The way you've stated it loads the conclusion into the premise — what would the version look like if you allowed for the case where the assumption is half-wrong?
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